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Re: Milfy Alyssa Lactating

Postby DaveyGuy on Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:08 am

milkvampire wrote:Hi guys, I thought I would get in on the chat. I am the owner of Breast Milk For Men and I also work with Milfy Alyssa. All videos on breastmilkformen.com are paid for, I have not and will not steal content. I just wanted to clear that up. As for the streaming only...yes all sites under me are streaming only, however with every solo model I do offer a downloadable solution. You have 2 options, you can purchase through her clips4sale.com store or you can purchase through her personal store, store.milfyalyssa.com. If anyone has any question, concerns, would like to discuss content, whatever it is, feel free to contact me.


Welcome to PLVR and thanks for posting. I did notice that some of your vids are of "cam" girls that could have been stolen as well the vids from Alyssa. It has been done before. If I do buy a vid I want a high res one, some of the "cams" are very poor and not worth watching.
I think most members want to down load vids to keep, so they can see again. Who knows when this could stop.
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Re: Milfy Alyssa Lactating

Postby stungib on Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:59 am

milkvampire wrote:Oh I forgot to give you guys my email address fetish_producer1@yahoo.com feel free to chat with me anytime


I like to alternate my subscriptions to sites like Lactation Fantasy, JustNips, and PregnantUSA. Those sites always allow downloading, pic sets and are HD. Sometimes my internet is flakey so I'd rather have a copy of my porn rather than have to stream it. I like your site, BreastmilkForMen but stream only is a real showstopper for me. :(
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Re: Milfy Alyssa Lactating

Postby Murk on Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:41 am

Murk wrote:They should probably be something like the VOD sites like Hotmovies. You can pay less for streaming, and pay more to download it.


Kinda figured it'd be like that. Except the downloading is off-site in C4S instead of inside the site. It IS giving a download option, so you can't say that they're NOT. But the download option is at another price point.

Main thing I'd say is vid quality almost always suffers noticably for streams compared to download. MAYBE if streaming was more comparable quality it'd be more acceptable. But then there's always the price+convenience vs OWNABLE quality choices to decide on.
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Re: Milfy Alyssa Lactating

Postby milkvampire on Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:28 pm

Hi and Thank you for the warm welcome. I will address each one of your comments, so I will apologize now for the multiple post.
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Re: Milfy Alyssa Lactating

Postby milkvampire on Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:55 pm

Welcome to PLVR and thanks for posting. I did notice that some of your vids are of "cam" girls that could have been stolen as well the vids from Alyssa. It has been done before. If I do buy a vid I want a high res one, some of the "cams" are very poor and not worth watching.
I think most members want to down load vids to keep, so they can see again. Who knows when this could stop.


I can not say if I have a "cam girl" on my site or not. I know some have turn to doing cams after realizing there's a market for them, after appearing on my site. My goal in creating breastmilkformen.com was to produce a product that I would enjoy. Just like you guys, I love to watch a woman lactate and would love to be the extension of her nipple if I could...lol. So that was reason # 1 I decided to do the site. I wanted to use amateur moms, an amateur feel and I wanted it self shot by them. So, the trailers may appear to be a mom doing a cam show, but I assure you it's just a mom doing a self shoot. There's no bells and whistles, just moms doing what they do natural with a bit of flirting. I literally have moms sending content in that has been shot on a IPhone to 1080i video cameras, but the one thing I am focus on is making sure the quality is good. I do and have decline videos based on the quality. I require that all content is shot at a minimum of 1280x720 HD. The reason I use this as my standard is because not everyone has a camera that can shoot 1080i, nor does everyone have the ability to watch a video shot at 1080i. Most videos that are streaming are reduced in bitrate to avoid the high cost in bandwidth. All of my members videos are encoded at the highest bitrate allowed, about twice that of my teaser videos, to assure you a better quality video.

As I have said before I have not nor will I ever steal content. I've been in the internet adult biz for over 10 years and the one thing I know that really hurts the business is piracy. So the last thing I want to do is to contribute to piracy. Every mom that is on my site has signed a release form, allowing me permission to use their content on my site. When I first started this site out, I needed videos, so I reached out to a few moms on C4S. Each mom I contacted I purchased content to make certain that the mom was worth me contacting. I only used purchased content from 1 mom and she signed an agreement to give me full permission. The other moms I was unable to come to an agreement, so their videos have not been published. Trust me when I say this, I cross all my T's and dot all of my I's, because the last thing I need is for someone to claim I didn't have permission to use their videos. Like I said I been in this business for over 10 years and have seen it all, and I make sure to have my ass covered.

I do understand the need and the want to keep your copy of the video and to be able to watch it over and over again. However the structure of the business is changing. More and more companies are slowly moving to a streaming base product. You will find that older sites are maintaining the ability to download while offering a streaming option, but as these companies launch new sites, they are making them stream base only. One of the reasons is the obvious reason, money, but the other reason it is quicker and easier to make the videos streaming only so that no matter if you are using a Desktop or a phone you can still watch the videos. Just an easy solution to this. I am not a big company, I am a one man show, that is managing 4 membership sites, 4 personal store sites and 4 C4S stores and growing. What I am doing is no different than going to red box and renting a movie, or going to your local Wal-mart and buying the movie. I have not removed the option to download, it just cost a separate fee to purchase. I am not trying to rip anyone off, nor do I wish to lose anyone's business. I am just trying to design a solid product that all of you can enjoy and to be even honest with you, breastmilkformen.com is just the beginning of what I want to do. To do this it's going to cost me $$$, such a fees, server expenses, and expenses that I have to pay to the moms.

There it is, as a fan myself, I have put it all on the table. I hope that all of you now understand where I am coming from.
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Re: Milfy Alyssa Lactating

Postby milkvampire on Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:15 pm

I like to alternate my subscriptions to sites like Lactation Fantasy, JustNips, and PregnantUSA. Those sites always allow downloading, pic sets and are HD. Sometimes my internet is flakey so I'd rather have a copy of my porn rather than have to stream it. I like your site, BreastmilkForMen but stream only is a real showstopper for me. :(


I am sorry to hear that streaming is a problem for you due to your internet. I do appreciate the compliment :). As I have said before do not wish to lose you as a member based on my sites only offering streaming content. Let me ask you this, if I was to offer a downloadable version of the site and raise the rates to offset my loss in sales at about $39.99 would you still be interested in signing up to the site. I am open to options.
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Re: Milfy Alyssa Lactating

Postby ydnar600 on Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:28 pm

I think u could raise rates but only if u place all your content on there that I see on C4S. In the case of Alyssa, I love her so much I'm willing to shell out more $$$ on C4S even though I'm signed up on your site. I shouldn't have to though. Lactation Fantasy site is astounding if you're new to the game with a staggering amount of content but not so much if you've seen everything; they don't update as much anymore. They charged over $40 5 years ago, so a price hike for dloadable content might be warranted.
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Re: Milfy Alyssa Lactating

Postby stungib on Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:54 pm

This is a great dialog. I'll give you a more complete answer later today.
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Re: Milfy Alyssa Lactating

Postby milkvampire on Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:18 pm

I think u could raise rates but only if u place all your content on there that I see on C4S. In the case of Alyssa, I love her so much I'm willing to shell out more $$$ on C4S even though I'm signed up on your site. I shouldn't have to though. Lactation Fantasy site is astounding if you're new to the game with a staggering amount of content but not so much if you've seen everything; they don't update as much anymore. They charged over $40 5 years ago, so a price hike for dloadable content might be warranted.


:) I am sure she appreciates your loyalty. Alyssa is an extremely shy mom, who felt that no one would want to see her. After some coaxing on my end I convince her to give it a shot. The first video she sent me, had me drooling from the mouth and I felt very strongly that if she was to do a solo site she could do pretty well with it. So hearing your comments about her will make her extremely happy! i will be sure to pass it on :)

Milfy Alyssa site is a stand alone solo model site. She is trying to make some extra cash for the household. So even though breastmilkformen.com host her first videos, her site is separate from breastmilkformen.com. I build it, I host it, but the $$$ from it and her C4S go to her minus hosting, server and merchant fees.

Milfy Marie site is also a stand alone solo site. She is a stay at home mom trying to use this as a means to make her ends meet.

I do plan to talk with them, to develop a network where 1 log in gives you access to all sites. Hearing what you guys have been saying, I may look into offering the network with the choice to stream or download. I have to discuss it with the moms and get their feelings on it.
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Re: Milfy Alyssa Lactating

Postby milkvampire on Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:23 pm

by stungib
This is a great dialog. I'll give you a more complete answer later today.


I look forward to it
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Re: Milfy Alyssa Lactating

Postby milkvampire on Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:25 pm

Just a side note I am currently looking into a way to offer streaming per video. But due to my merchant the cheapest I could charge per video is $2.99. So I wanted to see if anyone would be interested in that as another option?
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Re: Milfy Alyssa Lactating

Postby DaveyGuy on Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:51 pm

milkvampire wrote: Trust me when I say this, I cross all my T's and dot all of my I's, because the last thing I need is for someone to claim I didn't have permission to use their videos. Like I said I been in this business for over 10 years and have seen it all, and I make sure to have my ass covered.
There it is, as a fan myself, I have put it all on the table. I hope that all of you now understand where I am coming from.



Looks like you do have the leagal part right, thats good to hear. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Re: Milfy Alyssa Lactating

Postby stungib on Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:53 am

milkvampire wrote:
by stungib
This is a great dialog. I'll give you a more complete answer later today.


I look forward to it


Well, from a customer perspective I see it as selling convienence. You can break it down to itunes vs. spotify or netflix. IMO, music can be "consumed" anywhere. There is not as much time investment as a (long) movie. I would rather buy a song for a lower price and have it to enjoy anywhere rather than pay a monthly fee to hear any song from a huge catalog. ( I dont subscribe to Spotify. I use the free version with commercials.)
Film (mainstream) is different though. That takes more time to enjoy. If a company has a huge film catalog its worth paying a monthly fee to see any movie from a huge catalog. Plus you have a queue that is basically a storage shelf for your favorite movied (I do subscribe to Netflix Stream only.)
Lac Porn is short enough to fall in the same catagory as a song, IMO. Right now BreastMilkForMen doesnt have a big enough catalog to justify buying more than a few days of membership to see all the clips that you carry. Then I cant even keep a copy of the clips I like. I see you set up a store for each model, but the price is the same as C4S. So what is the benefit from buying from your store, when I can pay the same price directly from C4S?
To answer your question, I would consider buying a higher price to be able to download all your clips as well as streaming. But 40.00 is a little steep. I do really like Alyssa and Luscious Lola. The higher the price the more the turnover will be with customers joining and quitting when they have D/Led all the new content. The way to combat that is to always have new content.
And of course if I was a lactating model or was mentoring one, I would suggest her to film something every day without fail. The more content you make the more you can remix into new content by making special remixes.... letdowns, self sucking, distance spraying, etc.. You only have that lactating period for a short time (unless the model cams and has a high demand for customers wanting a Live Milk Show.
Thanks for what you do and being honest. I wish you and your moms "suck"cess! :thumbup:
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Re: Milfy Alyssa Lactating

Postby milkvampire on Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:22 pm

Well, from a customer perspective I see it as selling convienence. You can break it down to itunes vs. spotify or netflix. IMO, music can be "consumed" anywhere. There is not as much time investment as a (long) movie. I would rather buy a song for a lower price and have it to enjoy anywhere rather than pay a monthly fee to hear any song from a huge catalog. ( I dont subscribe to Spotify. I use the free version with commercials.)
Film (mainstream) is different though. That takes more time to enjoy. If a company has a huge film catalog its worth paying a monthly fee to see any movie from a huge catalog. Plus you have a queue that is basically a storage shelf for your favorite movied (I do subscribe to Netflix Stream only.)
Lac Porn is short enough to fall in the same catagory as a song, IMO. Right now BreastMilkForMen doesnt have a big enough catalog to justify buying more than a few days of membership to see all the clips that you carry. Then I cant even keep a copy of the clips I like. I see you set up a store for each model, but the price is the same as C4S. So what is the benefit from buying from your store, when I can pay the same price directly from C4S?
To answer your question, I would consider buying a higher price to be able to download all your clips as well as streaming. But 40.00 is a little steep. I do really like Alyssa and Luscious Lola. The higher the price the more the turnover will be with customers joining and quitting when they have D/Led all the new content. The way to combat that is to always have new content.
And of course if I was a lactating model or was mentoring one, I would suggest her to film something every day without fail. The more content you make the more you can remix into new content by making special remixes.... letdowns, self sucking, distance spraying, etc.. You only have that lactating period for a short time (unless the model cams and has a high demand for customers wanting a Live Milk Show.
Thanks for what you do and being honest. I wish you and your moms "suck"cess! :thumbup:


I appreciate the direct feed back. I will follow up shortly.
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Re: Milfy Alyssa Lactating

Postby Feanfan on Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:18 pm

OMG Greaaat website tho!!

I really loved the trailers as well!
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